diff --git a/tools/blender/tests/smoke_frame.py b/tools/blender/tests/smoke_frame.py
index 9bcf10789..d9cd6a805 100644
--- a/tools/blender/tests/smoke_frame.py
+++ b/tools/blender/tests/smoke_frame.py
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ SHIP_ID = "smoke.frame"
 GAME = Path(os.environ.get("SMOKE_GAME_FOLDER") or sys.exit("Set SMOKE_GAME_FOLDER to a folder holding GameData/Aetheria.cc and ModTools/AetherDb"))
 MODS = GAME / "GameData" / "Mods"
 COLLECTION = "Smoke Frame"
-NAMES_NOT_ECHOED = (SHIP_ID, COLLECTION, "Second Frame", "Loose Nub", "Hull", str(GAME), GAME.name)
+NAMES_NOT_ECHOED = (SHIP_ID, COLLECTION, "Second Frame", "Loose Nub", "Hull", "NoSuchHullXYZ", str(GAME), GAME.name)
 
 
 def new_object(collection, name, mesh, location=(0, 0, 0), parent=None):
@@ -237,7 +237,12 @@ def main():
     root = bpy.data.objects["Ship Root"]
     print("PASS 1 new ship ok")
 
-    # Pass 2: a Save that fails after create removes what it made; the retry succeeds.
+    # Pass 2: a Save that fails in create or after it leaves nothing behind and tells the author nothing of the input;
+    # the retry succeeds.
+    collection["aetheria.pending"] = ["Smoke Frame", "NoSuchHullXYZ"]
+    refused(bpy.ops.aetheria.save_ship_layout, "AetherDb refused to create the ship", "Save with an unknown reference hull")
+    require(not (MODS / SHIP_ID).exists(), "A refused create left the ship folder behind")
+    collection["aetheria.pending"] = ["Smoke Frame", "Djinni"]
     real = aetheria_ships.replace_layout
 
     def failing(*args, **kwargs):
@@ -323,9 +328,10 @@ def main():
         require(snapshot == (buffer(bpy.context.scene), list(collection["aetheria.grid_origin"]),
                              [tuple(map(tuple, child_obj.matrix_world)) for child_obj in root.children]),
                 f"{what} changed the scene while refusing")
-    for obj in (render, nub):
-        obj.parent = root
-        obj.matrix_parent_inverse = root.matrix_world.inverted()
+    render.parent = root  # Ship Root's descendants count, however deep: the nub hangs from the hull
+    render.matrix_parent_inverse = root.matrix_world.inverted()
+    nub.parent = render
+    nub.matrix_parent_inverse = render.matrix_world.inverted()
     select(render)
     result, message = run(bpy.ops.aetheria.rasterise_hull)
     require(result == {"FINISHED"}, f"Rasterise Hull was refused: {message}")
diff --git a/tools/blender/tests/test_ship_cc.py b/tools/blender/tests/test_ship_cc.py
index 4a9c045d8..bd39a83e3 100644
--- a/tools/blender/tests/test_ship_cc.py
+++ b/tools/blender/tests/test_ship_cc.py
@@ -519,6 +519,27 @@ class CSharpWrittenFixtureTests(unittest.TestCase):
                 shutil.copy(Path(os.environ["SHIP_FIXTURE_DIR"]) / "mod.skiff" / "skiff.glb", target / "skiff.glb")
 
 
+class RefusalsNameNoInputTests(ShipFileCase):
+    def test_refusals_name_no_path_mount_or_anchor_id(self):
+        _, _, revision = ship_cc.read_layout(self.path, PACKAGES)
+        mount = "mount.zq-unique"
+        duplicate = [[ "anchor.zq-unique", "map-icon", "n1", None, 0], ["anchor.zq-unique", "shield", "n2", None, 0]]
+        bad_footprint = ship_cc.encode_hardpoint(
+            Type=3, Position=[1, 0], Shape=[[1, 1, [0]]], Transform=mount, Rotation=0, Armor=0.0, FiringArc=0.0)
+        empty_footprint = ship_cc.encode_hardpoint(
+            Type=3, Position=[1, 0], Shape=[[1, 1, [False]]], Transform=mount, Rotation=0, Armor=0.0, FiringArc=0.0)
+        calls = (lambda: ship_cc.replace_visual(self.path, PACKAGES, "mod.skiff", "ship.glb", duplicate),
+                 lambda: ship_cc.replace_layout(self.path, PACKAGES, "mod.skiff", revision, [2, 2, [True] * 4], [bad_footprint]),
+                 lambda: ship_cc.replace_layout(self.path, PACKAGES, "mod.skiff", revision, [2, 2, [True] * 4], [empty_footprint]),
+                 lambda: ship_cc.read(os.path.join(self.path, "missing.cc"), PACKAGES))
+        for call in calls:
+            with self.subTest(call):
+                with self.assertRaises(Exception) as caught:
+                    call()
+                for forbidden in ("zq-unique", self.path, os.path.dirname(self.path)):
+                    self.assertNotIn(forbidden, str(caught.exception))
+
+
 class ShipIdTests(unittest.TestCase):
     def test_admits_the_ids_the_c_sharp_rule_admits(self):
         for ship_id in ("probe.a", "a", "0x", "a_b-c", "com10", "com0", "lpt0", "console", "aux2", "a.nul", "x.com1"):